Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

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Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by stevenjm on 23/2/2011, 07:50

Simply as topic Smile



Right, a game running a good while ... excess of 70 rounds for example - opposing side from (me) decides lets undef, 3 times.

Is this a strategic move to win knowing a losing battle for that team? OR is this a losing sides way of turning the tide around?

Im all for competition, there is more to this question when I get some sort of input ...

Simply put ... undef usage yes / no Smile


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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by MoJo on 23/2/2011, 08:04

I dont understand this topic.
Undef is not killable. PERIOD.
If someone defeats you by sending undef that doesent make him a loser, just a better player.

Your first post in this topic should be a little more descriptive , as in why you think such.

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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by }{odge-Podge on 23/2/2011, 17:08

Listen to Mojo, stevenjm. This is classified as trolling, which can lead to a ban. Just add some discription to your post please Smile

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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by stevenjm on 23/2/2011, 21:18

}{odge-Podge wrote:Listen to Mojo, stevenjm. This is classified as trolling, which can lead to a ban. Just add some discription to your post please Smile

Thanks

*g* description*

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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by stevenjm on 23/2/2011, 21:19

MoJo wrote:I dont understand this topic.

You should now

MoJo wrote:Undef is not killable. PERIOD.

I am aware of that. Not related to that.

MoJo wrote:If someone defeats you by sending undef that doesent make him a loser, just a better player.

Thanks Smile

Your first post in this topic should be a little more descriptive , as in why you think such.
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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by }{odge-Podge on 23/2/2011, 22:01

Thanks Smile Also try not to double post. Rather put your edit into the previous post underneath [EDIT] or something similar Smile
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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by MoJo on 23/2/2011, 22:20

Ok then i ask you ... why didn't you sent the undefs yourself earlier, as i understand, you were wining.
Undefs exist so that a game wont run until rnd 1000 because all have races that kills everything.
A tip ... send undef as soon as he is ready.
If the game reached that round then you may have to think on how to end the game and undefs are your best tool to win.

P.S : Hope i understood well that you were the one that lost because of the undefs ... that "opposing side from (me)" confused me a bit

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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by stevenjm on 24/2/2011, 00:13

Fanks Smile
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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by H3katonkheir on 24/2/2011, 21:09

I've noticed that quite a lot of the time (esp on Garena), the other team complains endlessly if you send an undefeatable...
(I assume thats why you posted this question? Either because you are a complainer or don't want to be the reason of complaint.)

Undefeatabes; An end game strategy that will likely decide the fate of the game.
Sending them is part of the game and should not be seen as anything otherwise (should not be considered 'lame' or any alternatives). If you have let the opposing team generate that much gold, and have a boss shrine level three with the undefeatable not in cooldown - then you sure as hell deserve to face an undefeatable, and vice versa (teams wise)

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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by stevenjm on 24/2/2011, 22:00

Heh - thanks for your feedback on it H3, i agree with you 100%
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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by Guest on 7/3/2011, 02:18

My personal opinion : once you've reached the point where you can afford an undef you have basically reached the point where normal sends including tanks (bosses) doesn't do the job. You undef to finish your opponent off.

Ruling : Fair game Wink

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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by russoka on 7/3/2011, 08:04

Undefeatable must going on 60 wave Excited and need insane juggle to keep time :o
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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by akroma0734 on 25/9/2011, 14:21

simple answer:

FAIR GAME. Smile
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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by }{odge-Podge on 26/9/2011, 03:32

akroma0734 wrote:simple answer:

FAIR GAME. Smile

Agreed.
The undefeatable is there, plainly and simply, so the game does not go on forever... If you can buy it and sent it, then cudos to you chum and may you live forever Tongue . Also, if the Undefeatable was "illegal" then why would it be in the map in the first place? Some people just don't think... 8o
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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by vAnKaTa_G.G. on 26/9/2011, 03:42

Some people just don't think... Roll Eyes

The funny thing here is that I tend to say that almost every day for the past month. I have the feeling that about 30% of the people I met in the past month forgot their ability to think long ago...

And just so I stick on topic. (Excited) The undefeatable is used to end a game if the two sides are equally strong. If it wasn't there we would have an endless game of TTW between Pro teams. Plus if your enemy is a loser he shouldn't be able to get to the undefeatable before you so.... Excited
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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by LeafMuncher on 26/9/2011, 04:42

Here is a simple example:

Mode is -rm
builders are Goblin, Dragon, Tinker
game will never end without undefeatable if both teams are good. Unless timer breaks or isn't allowed to cool down, somebody might blow at round 80 Tongue

PS: NECRONECRONECRONECRO!!!!!!!1!ONE!!!ELEVENTY-ONE!1!!!
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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by Frozenwolf on 26/9/2011, 06:37

Undef is fair game, if it wasn't then it wouldn't be in the game. Games that last that long that allow teams to use undefs are probably gonna last a while longer so there is nothing wrong with sending an undef to end the game or the game might never end.
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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by katherine on 26/9/2011, 06:40

Fair game, i dunno how many times i have goalied and we are down 17-7 and then i undef and juggle my creeps as the magic starts xD

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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by akroma0734 on 27/9/2011, 02:51

Plus !

if a TTW player is just renting pc's just to play games, undef is there so that he/she wont be playing for lets say, 3hours in one game. Wink
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Re: Undef ... fair game or losers best move?

Post by H3katonkheir on 27/9/2011, 04:51

LOCKED

The end conclusion, chosen by all respondents;
Fair Game.

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